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Are there things you can write in a film score that you can’t write for the concert hall? Douglas J. Cuomo



Photo by Sharon Guskin

I can only speak for myself of course, but I find writing for each medium a distinct process with concerns of its own. Here are a few of my thoughts on the subject.

The single most profound difference in the composing process (leaving aside the differences in producing the music in the studio as opposed to preparing it for live performance) is that in film underscoring, for the most part, many critical musical parameters are rigidly predetermined by the visual and dramatic aspects of the particular scene you are writing for. The picture (and the director) tell you when the music stops and starts, to the fraction of a second, as well as its overall shape. This is often very specific—the music must start out very subtly but then 10.5 seconds in it must immediately shift to something with a lot of forward motion, but not too frantic, and be sure the music acknowledges the exact moment when you see the character through the door etc., etc. In concert writing one must also determine how long a piece or section is and where formal changes occur, but that would be left to the composer.

Certain textural considerations are somewhat predetermined as well. You have to be quite careful about being too busy; it is rare that there is much counterpoint, and melody must also be used with care. Often the dialog of the scene is the melody and underscore is accompaniment, or at the least the composer must take into account the placement of the dialog and “leave holes” for it by weaving the melody, harmony, and rhythm around it.

I also find that every small musical emphasis—be it a rhythmic accent, a harmonic change, or melodic leap—accrues a large meaning when played against the picture. One often has to work within a very constricted range of gestures because any time the music draws attention to itself it also draws attention to and highlights what is happening on screen at that moment. This of course is used to great advantage but also must be monitored extremely closely. Rarely can a gesture be made for purely musical reasons, the constant challenge is to find something musical that works dramatically.

A difference so obvious it seems scarcely necessary to state it is that most underscore cues are very short; few are even four minutes long, very few over six. Much concert music is of course longer.

Having said all that, in a given measure of music I’m not sure there is anything that one could write as concert music that couldn’t be written as film music or vice versa. Context is all.

In Conversation with Arthur Berger



Arthur Berger, composer and critic, b. 1912
Photo by Robert Bachrach, courtesy C.F. Peters Corporation

An interview with the author of Reflections of an American Composer

Daniel Felsenfeld: What is your opinion of the current reigning music critics in such places as The Boston Globe, The New York Times, and The New Yorker magazine?

Arthur Berger: I think the standards maintained by the music critics on the publications you mention are quite high. There is much more coverage of new music now—indeed, more intelligent and knowledgeable coverage than there was in my time as a critic—though I think the statement is subject to some qualification. I have the impression that for some time now the coverage of contemporary music has not been as broad in The Boston Globe as it was before. For example, during the past few months there were three exemplary concerts of reputable contemporary music groups that were not reviewed. And the music column in The New Yorker in my time as reviewer appeared weekly and is now far too irregular, though it is excellent when it does appear.

Daniel Felsenfeld: In your book you were not in the least doom-saying about the contemporary musical scene. Do you think that concert music has a good healthy future, especially here in America?

Arthur Berger: My book was not really about the contemporary scene and I’m not a soothsayer who can foretell the future. However, though one may be grateful for the attention given both new and old music in today’s concerts, there is still a tendency to serve up the chestnuts where older music is concerned and to program new music for the publicity value of a first performance so that the opportunity to hear this music again and again—s so necessary, as everyone knows, to its proper apprehension—is not vouchsafed by either performers or presenters.

Daniel Felsenfeld: What do you think of the “Europeanization” of many of the larger institutions—Tanglewood, for example, or the major orchestras?

Arthur Berger: This is one area where things have definitely not improved. They’re pretty much the same as they were in my day. I don’t see why Carnegie Hall has to turn to Europeans like Boulez to occupy a distinguished role on its roster, and why the management and boards of our major symphonies spend so much effort shopping abroad when a new conductor is needed despite the fact that America has produced such fine conductors from Levine, Bernstein, and Thomas onwards.

Daniel Felsenfeld: Is there finally an “American” sound to so-called classical music?

Arthur Berger: I don’t know what relation it has to the present globalization since it predates it quite a bit, but internationalism in music has been dominant in the world for some time owing to the prevalence of neo-classicism and serialism and there is still a strong vestige of it in America. To be sure, composers like Copland, Thomson, and Cowell demonstrated in the thirties and forties that we could have an American music and that was good. It gave us the confidence that our music had “come of age.” But it’s not important now. It may be that when we acquire some distance we will hear the “American” sound in the most complex serial music, namely, a certain emphasis on the single note or phrase in contrast to the free-flowing European model—a rhythmic approach that reflects our dealing with music from the ground up in contrast to the European for whom tradition is so natural that he finds himself in midstream without even trying.

Daniel Felsenfeld: What are you composing these days?

Arthur Berger: At the age of 90, unlike Carter, I feel I can slow down a bit and turn to other things, like the book I have just completed. I was never a prolific composer and so slowing down is like almost coming to a standstill. Last summer I did a setting of a Ronsard Ode in 5 parts for mezzo-soprano with accompaniment of flute, cello, and piano, freely based on a setting I had made some years earlier for voice and piano. It was for Dinosaur Annex. But otherwise no one is rushing to my door with commissions and I have works lying on a shelf gathering dust. So at the moment there is no incentive.

View From the West: Swing Your Partner Round and Round—Why Not Collaborate?


Dean Suzuki
Photo by Ryan Suzuki

A while back I wrote a column emphasizing the importance of musicians and especially composers being aware of artists in other fields and even being a part of a larger integrated arts community. Knowledge is one thing, and a very good thing it is, but some composers and likely more composers should take the next step and collaborate with their colleagues. And by collaborating, I mean much more than simply accepting a commission for a dance score, installation, or film sound track and writing music according to the demands of the choreographer, artist, or director. Of course not all choreographers, artists or filmmakers will want input from the composer. On the other hand, there are plenty of examples of composers working hand in hand with other artists and the final piece is the result of discussions, brain storming sessions, consultation, and other forms of give and take.

The results, if truly collaborative, will be a work which none of the parties would have created of their own accord. The composer’s contribution will undoubtedly bear imprint of the collaborative effort, taking the composer into an area he or she might not have entered were it not for working with the other artists.

Erik Satie was part of a rich and dynamic cultural milieu that had tremendous breadth and depth, including composers, painters, choreographers, photographers, writers, and other artists, among them neo-Classicists, Dadaists, Cubists, Impressionists, post-Impressionists, and others. Satie collaborated with artists on several works, but none more important than Relâche described as a Dada spectacle. The scenario was created by Dadaist Francis Picabia and the choreography was by Jean Börlin. Within Relâche is a most important collaborative piece: Entr’acte cinématographique, also known as Cinéma, a film by René Clair. With a score by Satie (it was not intended to synch up with the action on screen), the absurdist film includes Marcel Duchamp, Man Ray, Satie, and Börlin. Satie also worked with Picasso, along with Jean Cocteau in the ballet Parade. With these collaborations in mind, it is difficult to imagine Satie’s work without the influence of Dada and Cubism, though one would hardly describe Sate as either a Dadaist or Cubist composer.

Of course, John Cage organized the ground-breaking inter-media event at Black Mountain College in 1952 which included Merce Cunningham, Robert Rauschenberg, M. C. Richards, Charles Olson, and David Tudor, the forerunner of the “Happenings,” Fluxconcerts, and Performance Art. It was not until 1958 that Allan Kaprow mounted the first so-called Happening. Shortly thereafter, artists such as Claes Oldenburg, Jim Dine, and others engaged in the staging of Happenings. Cage had a direct hand in the birthing of Fluxus and Performance Art is clearly in the lineage and under the inspiration of Cage’s event at Black Mountain.

Perhaps the contemporary composer who has done the most collaborative work is Philip Glass. His partners have included both commercial and experimental filmmakers, theater artists, sculptors, librettists, poets, even other musicians and composers. His best known collaborative works are probably the ground-breaking opera Einstein on the Beach and the films of the Qatsi trilogy, but especially the first, Koyaanisqatsi, which presented the composer to his largest audience up to that time.

The Qatsi trilogy offered an opportunity for true collaboration in which the various parties involved in the creation of the work were near equal partners. Director Reggio consulted extensively with Glass regarding the shape of the films and their content. Indeed, Glass is credited as “dramaturgical consultant” in the last two films of the trilogy in addition to his credit as composer. In an effort to create a unified vision for the film, it was decided that some of the music would be composed prior to the filming. Additionally, Glass often traveled to the locations where Powwaqatsi was shot, often with Reggio, in order that he might develop a sense of the culture and place. Thus, for the opening sequence of Powwaqqatsi, Glass wrote the music first and the cinematographer listened to the music on a personal stereo as he shot the film. This unusual situation profoundly affected the way that Glass composed for the films and the type of music he came up with. Rather than adapting music to the film, the music helped steer the film. This is a far cry from the traditional role of the film score composer who submits to the demands, needs, and even whims of the director.

The scenario for Einstein on the Beach was decided upon during sessions between the two primary creators: Glass and Robert Wilson. The main character emerged after a series of suggestions offered up by each artist. Early in the process, Wilson suggested Adolf Hitler and Glass countered with Mahatma Gandhi. Each rejected the o
ther’s suggestion. Later, Wilson offered up Charlie Chaplin, then Albert Einstein who was agreed upon as the main character. Later, the two artists eventually agreed upon the various acts and scenes. Glass wanted to include a science fiction component, hence the “Spaceship” scenes. While some aspects of the scenario were created by Wilson alone, it is very clear that Einstein is the product of a joint vision.

The point is not so much that Glass made contributions beyond his role as a composer, rather his non-musical contributions informed what it was that he did as a composer.

Paul Dresher established his career through collaborative works with experimental theater artist George Coates whose non-narrative, non-linear works were the results of teamwork and collaboration. Dresher was not only the composer, but also drafted as an on-stage performer and actor.

Dresher eventually struck out on his own and established himself as a composer of music theater pieces. Not only did his collaborations with Coates open his eyes to the possibilities of the theater, especially experimental, non-linear theater, Dresher continued to work with others to help realize his vision. After leaving Coates, he continued to work with theater artists, including many works with vocalist/writer Rinde Eckert who also worked in Coates’ theater company. Dresher is honest enough to admit that his area of strength is as a composer and not a playwright or theater artist, and has actively sought out collaborators to help realize his vision. His operas Slow Fire, Power Failure, and Awed Behavior all feature librettos by Eckert. Dresher and Eckert worked closely in the development of these operas. Once a topic, subject, or governing idea is established, Dresher continues to participate in the creative process, offering feedback, suggestions and ideas that help form and complete the text. The team of Dresher and Eckert was expanded to include Terry Allen and Jo Harvey Allen in Pioneer. Eckert and the Allens wrote the libretto, Terry Allen created the set design and Jo Harvey Allen performed the lead female role, all in close consultation with the composer. Dresher’s Sound Stage, discussed in a recent column, not only features text by Eckert, but instruments designed by Dresher and instrument builder Daniel Schmidt who has also built instruments for John Cage and John Adams. Additionally, Dresher has worked closely with the Margaret Jenkins Dance Company for many years creating numerous scores for them. None of these works could have been realized without Dresher’s collaborators, yet all are representative of Dresher’s artistic aesthetic, even apart from the music.

Very recently, San Francisco based composer Victoria Jordanova collaborated with Relja Penezic, a visual and video artist, who also happens to be Jordanova’s husband, on Panopticon. The work, based on Jeremy Bentham‘s pioneering work on surveillance techniques, explores the concept, philosophy, and reality of surveillance and Big Brother through music, video, and live interactive video, including video “surveillance” of the audience and the performers. The piece garnered a positive review in the Los Angeles Times which states: “[Panopticon] deliriously blended music by Jordanova (also playing harp and harmonica) with mosaic like video by Rey Penezic . . . [The] video’s sardonic charm, satirically spinning off the post-Orwellian better living through surveillance theme . . . Jordanova’s score kept our interest, with its rueful, aloof rewiring of folk influences.” It is not likely that Jordanova would have realized the work with all of the video technology that the piece requires were it not for Penezic’s skills and artistic vision.

For those not plugged into a larger art scene, another option is to collaborate with other composers. While this may not appeal to many composers, it is not without precedent. John Cage, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, and Virgil Thompson played a kind of musical game that resulted in compositions known as the Party Pieces written between 1944 and 1945. In various combinations, the composers would each write one measure of music plus two notes. The manuscript paper was folded such that only the last two notes were revealed and the next composer would use them as a springboard for the next bar and two notes. Better known is Double Music for which Cage and Harrison each wrote two parts for the four performers. After agreeing upon fundamental compositional procedures and the lengths of the various sections, the two composers worked independent of one another. The composers regarded the results as successful. The four parts were layered together and not a note was changed. Harrison states: “By that time I knew perfectly well what John would be doing, or what his worm was likely to be. So I accommodated him. And I think he did the same to me, too, because it came out very well.” [Leta E. Miller and Fredric Lieberman, Lou Harrison: Composing a World [New York: Oxford University Press, 1998), p. 19.]

Philip Glass worked jointly with composer John Moran on the opera, The Juniper Tree along with librettist Arthur Yorinks. The work was created with all three working together in Nova Scotia. Unlike the Cage and Harrison collaborations, Glass and Moran each composed complete scenes independently, though they discussed their music with each other as they composed. Ultimately, Moran used a theme composed by Glass for one of the scenes as the basis for a set of variations to be used in another scene. Other musical collaborators who have worked with Glass include Ravi Shankar, Foday Musa Suso, and Aphex Twin, among others.

Harold Budd embarked on a path leading to numerous collaborations when he began working with Brian Eno. Initially, Eno offered to produce an album. Later, the two collaborated on a recording, The Plateaux of Mirror. While Budd composed all of the keyboard works, he regards the final product as a true and complete collaboration. After composing the music, Budd entered the studio and played. Tapes were then sent to Eno who then applied “studio treatments” which often dramatically transformed the texture and tenor of the work, creating textures, timbres, and atmospheres that were simpatico, yet for Budd, unexpected and eye opening. The results were quite unlike what either Eno or Budd would have arrived at alone. As a result of this collaboration, as well as a second on the album The Pearl, Budd has continued to explore the use of the studio as a compositional tool.

Subsequent collaborators with Budd include Daniel Lentz, Ruben Garcia, and numerous rock and pop musicians including the Cocteau Twins, Bill Nelson (ex-Be Bop Deluxe and Red Noise), Andy Partridge (XTC), Daniel Lanois, and Hector Zazou, among others. While Budd concedes that his musical collaborators must adapt more to his musical language than he to theirs, he also recognizes and takes great satisfaction in the knowledge that these collaborations lead to a music that he would never have created on his own.

Of course there are many other examples of composers collaborating with other artists and composers. That being said, it is a path that many more composers might want to consider following. As has been the case with the composers discussed herein, many may discover that new possibilities, doors, and vistas will open up to them that they would not have encountered or considered were it not for the collaborative work.

Collaborations, whether with artists working in different disciplines or with other composers, may not be suitable, practical, or practicable for many composers. Collaborating with other composers can be especially problematic, as the arts are so very personal and so much ego investment is required that it may be too much to ask that the composers set aside their egos in service of the creation of new work. For others, however, collaboration may prove to be stimulating—eye and door opening, leading to exciting new ideas and possibilities.

Can recordings adequately recreate the “space” of a live performance? Daniel Asia



Daniel Asia
Photo by Steven Meckier

As a young composer just in graduate school, I submitted a piece, Dream Sequence I, for solo amplified trombone, for recording on Max Schubel’s enterprising Opus I. I was very happy when the piece was accepted, but when I discovered that I had to pay to have the piece recorded and produced, I was somewhat mystified and perplexed. It hadn’t occurred to me that this is, in fact, how most of the recording business works. Much to my present chagrin, I passed on the opportunity that Max presented to me. Later, while teaching at the Oberlin Conservatory, I had the good fortune of sharing in a concert with Anthony Braxton. After hearing my work, Rivalries, for chamber orchestra, he asked me if it was recorded. I said no, and he replied that he thought I should really be “documenting” this and other pieces on disc. It was at this point that I began to think about, and perhaps even begin to understand, the importance of the recorded media. Not that it necessarily produces or captures a perfect performance (since there isn’t any such thing anyway, of course), but that it documents a piece in another way from a score, and that it provides access, and repeated access, to any one who is interested, and who may never have the opportunity to hear a live performance.

Since that time, I have had the good fortune of seeing eight discs devoted to my music make it out into the world, on the Summit, New World, Albany, and Koch International Classics labels. All my symphonies are recorded, as is other orchestral music, including my Piano Concerto (with Andre-Michel Schub, its dedicatee). Most recently, Summit has released two DVDs of music, in surround sound. These include the song cycle disc, Breath in a Ram’s Horn, featuring the singers Robert Swensen and Faye Robinson, and pianist Tannis Gibson, and the electro-acoustic cycle Sacred and Profane, a 45′ cycle co-written with Kip Haaheim. This recorded body of work provides a pretty good view of the development of my music over the last thirty years or so. This seems to me a good and beneficial result of the recorded media.

There is, however, a potential danger here. This is the problem of feeling like a piece is not quite real until it is recorded. It would seem to me that live performance is still the more important, and preferred, form of communicating the essence of the musical experience, at least for acoustic music. However, given the ephemeral and episodic (at best) nature of live performances, recording seems to me another means of communicating with a segment of the listening public. And as Anthony said, it is also certainly a way to “document” a piece’s existence, and, if the composer is involved in the recording process, to create an insipient performance guide and tradition for future performances.

The issue of spatial presentation in music is, of course, not a new one. As an ardent young trombonist in my youth, I discovered this musical idea in the multi-choir music of Giovanni Gabrieli and his other collaborators in the San Marco School of Venice. I remember feeling the glee of realizing the possibility of actually being ‘surrounded’ by glorious music on all sides.

In my own compositions for acoustic instruments, I have rarely realized this spatial notion. The sole exception is the work Rivalries, for chamber orchestra, which has two separate trios located on either side of the orchestra. This allows for essentially disparate musics engaging each other from separate locations, which perhaps helps to highlight their individual qualities.

It would seem to me, however, that the most effective utilization of space has occurred in the electronic medium. Of early works in the medium, one need only think of Déserts by VarËse, Gesang der J¸nglinge by Stockhausen, The Wild Bull of Subotnick, or my Miles Mix. Quadraphonic developments of the 70’s were great for composers of electronic music, in as much as an established format was created to allow the music to move in three dimensions rather than just in two. The difficulty was, of course, one of control. One simply didn’t have as much as one would have liked.

In my most recent releases on DVD, which include the electro-acoustic cycle Sacred and Profane, and the song cycle disc, Breath In A Ram’s Horn, I have been able to return to the question of space with the flexibility and control that I always desired, and that the digital domain can provide.

In Breath, the surround sound medium simply creates a sense of a superb, and normal, concert hall. In other words, one hears as if one is in a great concert hall, with the sense of space and resonance that this implies. This is no small accomplishment.

For Sacred and Profane, I spent vast amounts of time realizing spatial locations, as well as speed and directionality of movement, with Kip Haaheim. We initially produced a stereo mix. When we went back to do the surround sound mix, we worked a bit more quickly, and perhaps even more intuitively, as we realized that we could rely on our previous decisions to work exceedingly well when expanded into the newly enlarged space. The result, in this latter version in particular, is a degree of sensuous spatial movement and presence that I would like to think rivals that of hearing all those brass in the San Marco Cathedral. Only now, each player can move and fly throughout the space with exceptional speed and without hitting each other.

Can recordings adequately recreate the “space” of a live performance? Terri Lyne Carrington



Terri Lyne Carrington
Photo by Thomas Dorn

The first thing I do is try not to compare between live and recorded performances. I try to look at them like apples and oranges, enjoying both, though they are two totally different flavors. I look at recordings as something that is archived forever, which lends itself to a bit of a safer environment because the presentation is so important that it must stand the test of time. Live performances, to me, are more of an energy exchange, unique to that moment, never to be captured again, especially in the creative style of jazz. That is what makes jazz so special. The very point of it is for every performance to be incredibly different. Jazz at its best in the live arena is not safe at all. What gives me the greatest charge is to take risks as much as possible, without sacrificing the musical presentation. This is challenging because with this kind of risk taking, it just does not work out the way you want every time, so there is the element of forgiveness that happens naturally from both the player and the listener when one is stretching outside of the safety zone. The most amazing feeling in the world is when it all comes together and every player is on the same page. That’s what makes it magical.

On the other hand, when I am recording or producing, I tend to find the balance between taking risks and holding back. The element of control is very important in the studio. It is paramount for making a classic recording, but not so controlled that it sounds sterile. It is this kind of harnessed energy that pulls the listener in and keeps them attentive. I look at producing records like being a film director. The end result is based on artistic vision and the ability to pull greatness out of all involved, in order to make the strong artistic contribution possible.

The positioning of each musician in a live setting is very important. In jazz, communication is a must and eye contact is essential. The only way to successfully have this is to set up very close. I have to sometimes angle the drums in order to see everyone. When playing with Herbie Hancock, I have to really stay on my toes and watch him at all times. I sometimes have to even watch his foot tapping to know where he is. I like to be close to the bass, but not behind the amp. It is better to get as much of the sound coming from him and his amp settings, rather than coming out of a monitor. In the studio, the luxury of this much contact is not always the case due to isolation booths. Sometimes we are even in different rooms. This is when your ear must do all the work. It is essential to have a well-developed ear and to use your eyes so the presentation is as strong as possible.

Can recordings adequately recreate the “space” of a live performance? Cindy Cox



Cindy Cox

Recording technology opens up large new realms to explore, but it also presents us with some dilemmas: how does one replicate a living, breathing performance in the medium of a recording? I began my musical life as a performer (a very serious pianist), and it is in the visceral world of physically playing music on a stage for a live audience that my musical ears and abilities were shaped. When my compositions are transcribed to recordings, I definitely do not have the same type of experience.

But surprisingly I find I usually like recordings better: in my own music I can achieve a more careful balance of the overall texture, which is often difficult given my typical layered and complex polyphonic approach to composition. I can record sections of the music many times and use the best “take” which can be important when the music is challenging to play, as mine usually is (according to the performers!). Many composers profess disappointment with the experience of a studio recording, as they feel it lacks the spontaneity and musicality of a live performance. But surprisingly I have not found that to be the case, at least not very often, when comparing my live recordings to the studio ones.

There is also an immediacy to modern digital recordings if well engineered, I feel like I am “inside” the sound, and there isn’t that sense of distance that separates the audience from the players onstage. And I can play it loud! In a live performance one has all of the excitement of an event which is happening now and won’t happen again in the same way, but somehow I often feel disappointed by the experience and miss the control I have with the fast-forward or review buttons on the CD or tape player. In the same way I gravitate to the act of composing, I also appreciate that in the privacy of my study I can go backwards and forwards in a recording and study and relish the special moments again and again at my pleasure.

Can recordings adequately recreate the “space” of a live performance? Leonardo Balada



Leonardo Balada

The idea and exploration of space in my music has changed in importance over time, as I explored different media. In the sixties I composed a number of works in which I tried to use the closeness or far distance of some instruments on the stage to my advantage. The results were disappointing. I concluded that this had been an effort on my part to compensate for the weakness of the actual musical ideas.

Curiously in future works, especially in operatic works, spatial concepts became very useful, thanks to the failures of my previous attempts in concert pieces. Since in many of my works I have been the creator of the story, and writer of the libretto as well as the music, I was able to conceive situations in which the position and relationship of the singers on the stage became an important tool. Of course, those spatial elements became lost once the work was recorded. The thrill of the recent recording of my opera Hangman, Hangman! turned into a frustrating experience in some instances. A couple of moments were. In one moment the Mother enters the stage in a very comical cartoon-like manner, but the music in the recording can’t make up for the void in the action. In another scene the Sheriff, Hangman and Johnny sing staccato notes that are supposed to bounce from one character to the other at a distance, as if they are passing each other a ball. All that made less sense in the recording.

Can recordings adequately recreate the “space” of a live performance? Elliott Schwartz



Elliott Schwartz

Whether we’re moving Shakespeare from English to French, the Mona Lisa from a wall in the Louvre to the pages of an art history book, or a Tchaikovsky symphony from concert hall to a compact disc, “translations” can be a tricky business. Even at their most successful, they don’t pretend to offer more than reasonable approximations of the originals. And when they’re not successful, they can fail spectacularly—by misrepresenting, extending or even contradicting their sources.  Given this rather iffy context, I’d say that one can (more or less) “translate” certain kinds of spatial music to the medium of recording. Two loudspeakers, separated as widely as possible, can handle the antiphonal effects of a Gabrieli canzona (right-left), or create the illusion of three locations (right-center-left). More complicated arrangements can be suggested by way of artful microphone placement, fooling the ear into equating volume level with physical distance. I recall an old LP record which included one of Henry Brant‘s “Millennium” series for brass ensemble, with Henry speaking about the piece at the start of the recording. His voice and his words set the stage perfectly, describing walls of brass players lined up on opposing sides of the concert hall; my imagination was sufficiently fired up that when the music began I could visualize the entire event, even on a stereo LP. (And by “visualizing” it, I convinced myself that I could “hear” it.)

A verbal description, then, can trigger a useful sort of illusion which (for some listeners, anyway) might be translated into a spatially separated quality. Ironically, this verbal program note may be more useful if it describes visual arrangements–the physical, architectural context–rather than sounds!  When a listener already knows the context in advance–an opera-goer familar with the last act of Mozart‘s Don Giovanni (one orchestra in the pit, another on the stage), for example, or the electronic-music-buff familiar with the multi-speaker setup of the Varèse Poème Électronique (in its original Brussels performance)–the spatial separation can be imagined, often quite vividly.

With the exception of the Brant, these examples are basically two-dimensional, in that the spatial activity is in front of the listener. To record anything more elaborate, such as Henry’s Orbits for 80 trombones or the great Thomas Tallis 40-part motet Spem in Alium, both circular in-the-round, one would need four-channel quad capabilities (which, ironically, existed in tape-decks and playback systems of the 1960s and ’70s, but never found a mass market and eventually disappeared). An easily assembled latter-day variant of that quad technology would be two CD systems (left-right-front-back) with their disks playing simultaneously. They could be perfectly synchronized (if control were an issue), or randomly “performed” by two individuals (if spontaneity counted for higher priority than rigor). In the future, perhaps a brand-new body of music will be composed specifically for such a format. And as a simple test of the system (!) I would love to see a major recording company issue a version of Charles IvesThe Unanswered Question for which the three spatially separated forces were recorded on different disks. Then listeners could actually perform the piece in their own living rooms or wherever. Fantasy, I know. (Dream on….)

Mention of the phrase “living room” raises another concern, and that is the issue of space itself. Most great spatial works of the past were designed for very large performance areas–vast, resonant, often awe-inspiring–and for specific architectural features such as balconies, alcoves, plazas, domes. The grandeur of such music isn’t all that suitable for the “space” of our living room (or the space between our ears, if we happen to listen via headphones).

I’ve composed a number of works that used spatial separation of players, including a few which depend upon separation for their very existence. These include my Chamber Concerto I (where members of the chamber ensemble leave their seats and join the percussion section), Magic Music (a mock piano concerto where various musicians from the orchestra gather at the piano & eventually force the soloist off the bench), Scatter for large wind ensemble (in which the performers move all around the hall), and Elevator Music (players on different landings, audience traveling up and down). I would NEVER think of having these pieces recorded! They were designed almost as an antidote — a radical alternative –to the permanence and fixed quality of the recording medium. A great many other composers have explored spatial (and multi-media) possibilities for the same reasons. To record such pieces would be to distort their intent. On the other hand, such pieces do get recorded. When listeners put on such recordings, they should realize that they are not hearing “the piece” but a particular realization in performance. Perhaps we should remember that when we hear recordings of Brahms as well!

Why bother “translating” one brand of space into another (totally antithetical) kind? For the same reason, I suppose, that people buy art picture books with reproductions of the Mona Lisa. They fill a need; we recognize that they’re approximations, and we learn to live with the compromises they entail.

It also needs to be said that, although many translations “fail,” they often lead to unforeseen developments. In fact, they may become new originals. Think of the 17th century Florentine Camerata trying to recapture ancient Greek drama (and instead inventing opera), the earliest violins and flutes imitating voices, early tape-music technique based on film editing, the first computer-generated sound programs modeling themselves after Moog and Buchla synthesizers; the history of music is filled with wonderful “translations.” Where would we be without them? Here’s to their continuation!

In Conversation with Electra Slonimsky Yourke



Father and daughter, 1987
Photo by Betty Freeman

An interview with the editor of Nicolas Slonimsky: Perfect Pitch, An Autobiography—New Expanded Edition

Molly Sheridan: Well, I started reading this book and I couldn’t stop. I mean, even all the reviews of the book mention how funny your father was, but seriously, parts of it had me laughing out loud.

Electra Slonimsky Yourke: Yes, it’s sort of wry and it really reads well. I must say even after having worked on it this much it’s still fun to read. The letters, all of them if you were to see them, are full of these stories. It’s sort of interesting because he was not an observer of life. He was not very observant of people unless they had some notable thing about them that interested him and yet these letters are very lively and give a really good picture of what he got out of his travels.

Molly Sheridan: So, since you’re his daughter obviously you had a special relationship with him already, and then you started working on this book…

Electra Slonimsky Yourke: Right, well, I’m the only child and he, as anybody reading this would realize, is not exactly your classic father-figure type and so my relationship with him even when I was small was not the usual father/daughter, “here let me pass on my wisdom to you,” or “why don’t you do this and do that,” because that was not his personality. It was much more of a peer relationship. We lived in Boston and I came to New York to go to college and I stayed here. He came down pretty regularly for one thing or another, and the places that he went and the people that he knew and the dinners and so forth that we had, I was always tagging along and I knew all of the people who were his friends and I was just sort of part of the crowd even though obviously I was a lot younger and not a musician and not in the business. But I was a college student and then I was a journalist. It was a peer relationship and his work and his world were open to me and continued that way. I met some of the notables myself and so that was part of my life, but I was not even aware that he was writing an autobiography. When my mother died he moved to Los Angeles from Boston. He was 70. Roy Harris was at UCLA and Roy—who was always getting him to come and do things at the places where he was domiciled at the moment—got him to come out and be an instructor at UCLA. That was really a good thing because he was completely broken up by my mother’s death. He really didn’t know what to do. So he moved out there and he started a completely new life in a completely new city, which was in a way not completely atypical. You can see from the book that wherever he went he adapted, learned the geography that he needed very quickly and because he was gregarious and knowledgeable, there were always some musical people, so he could create a life. And indeed he did that in Los Angeles where he was sort of a minor local, I wouldn’t say celebrity, but character and people would call him up for interviews and to give lectures and socialize. I had my own career here and I didn’t really know specifically what he was working on. Then it turned out that he had written this autobiography under contract. It sat at the publisher’s and had to be retrieved and edited. Ultimately it ended up with another publisher, but that’s neither here nor there…So I looked at the manuscript when it was being pared down for publication by Oxford University Press because there were problems with it. It was very ungainly at first and it had a lot of schtick in it frankly, and it had to be cooked down a bit. So his then-assistant and I spent what we still refer to as the week from hell with him getting some stuff taken out that just wasn’t of interest and shaking it down and then that was published. It did very well and they even sent him on a book tour. I went with him part of the time and he did a lot of television interviews and lectures. But it really wasn’t until this second time around with it when I worked much more intensively with the text and found some stuff that he had been cut earlier—I mean there were five versions of the manuscript and cartons of revisions and they were unpaginated, so a few pages would be rewritten and just put on top. It was really a puzzle. In doing all that and reassembling it, there were a couple of things that struck me – the sustained ease and humor and perspective of the writing which I don’t think I really appreciated before. You can go back and read the same thing over and over and it’s just as engaging the fifth time as it is the first time, so that I appreciated anew. Also, he never talked with me, understandably, about the technical aspects of music. That was something that I had not experienced through all of those years. He had all this in his grasp, he knew it all, and that’s why he was a notable conductor and could scan a score and know what was there—he knew all of the structures and all the musical content. But it didn’t interest him very much. So he put it to use when he was conducting, or you will see a few portions in the book where he does a true musical analysis of a piece of work, but I was not aware that all of that was available to him mentally when he was listening to a piece of music. I didn’t know how complicated it was. As a matter of fact, listening to music was not something that he did recreationally. He went to concerts, sometimes unwillingly if it was a program that he was familiar with. He wasn’t interested in repetition, he wasn’t interested in the standard repertoire because he knew it. His interest was stimulated by something that was new and something that was different. As a matter of fact when I was a kid my parents had a subscription to the Boston Symphony. It was sort of the occasion that they did, and they had seats right in the middle of Symphony Hall and almost every Saturday there was a fight because my father didn’t want to go. And I didn’t want to go in his place because that was my chance to have my friends over when nobody was home.

Molly Sheridan: And I take it then that you never got forced into the usual piano lessons if your father never wanted to hear anything more than once?

Electra Slonimsky Yourke: I was, actually, and I displayed an extraordinary lack of talent and interest and then ultimately resistance. I still remember saying to myself at one point, what could they do to me if I refused to have these lessons any more? I must have been big enough to have asked myself how bad could it be? And nothing happened. What were they going to do, beat me? So I simply have no musical ability or talent and it’s just as well. It would have been unhealthy if I had been musical at all. So this has all been a very long way of saying that he liked the new, he understood the new, like Ives, immediately. That was what interested him. He did not listen to music recreationally, though he had lots of records. He knew how to work a record player but not much else. He was not solemn about all of this; he acquired this deep knowledge at a very early age. All of this stuff was there and he never displayed it because it just didn’t interest him that much. It’s like somebody who speaks a lot of languages learned at an early age and people say, ‘Oh, isn’t that wonderful,’ and they say, ‘Who cares?’ So this tremendous technical knowledge that my father had was something that was new to me to understand.

Molly Sheridan: Well, now that you’ve worked so much on this biography, I’m curious where you see this book fitting in with his other writing.

Electra Slonimsky Yourke: All his other writings are extremely structured. He was at his best within a tight form and fitting what he knew and what he intuited into a form, like a dictionary entry. Music Since 1900—I don’t know if you’re familiar with that book—is done in chronological order and it’s not just the musical
highlights of music since 1900, but it’s an attempt to find the earliest possible moment when a certain musical development manifested itself. It’s a little bit like people who want to find the first use of a word, and so there are obscure things in there, but it had a structure. It was chronological and he was looking for specific things. Plus all of the entries are in one sentence, including some very long entries, so that was the gimmick. Above all, he did show off a lot. It was unique in that it pulled up things that were not previously identified. Not that he was a scholarly researcher, he really wasn’t. Yes, he spent a lot of time in the library looking for first performances of things, but that was what he was interested in. It was a matter of having a formula, of getting all the information. Lexicon of Musical Invective, which is a perennial, consists of bad reviews of composers since Beethoven, and people just love that, including non-musicians. It’s a great balm to think that Beethoven didn’t fare too well either, and he dug those reviews out of the old archives—he just loved that. It perfectly suited his personality because, of course, he had been the conductor of many of these early works of Ives, and Cowell and Ruggles and Varèse, and they had all been roasted in the newspapers by the music critics, whereupon his career as a conductor was brought to an end. He could just say, ‘Well, you see, this is what happens to all the greats.’ He liked pointing out philistinism. In the ’40s, he wrote a book on Latin American music—it was the first one apparently that had been written because nobody paid attention to Latin America. There, he had all the countries and the composers and it was all structured that way. He did the same thing with his composing—he did a little bit of rather fair composing. They’re all very small pieces. He’s got a collection called “Minitudes,” some of which are no more than a minute or two long—it’s published by Schirmer Music—and they’re all around an idea, a musical motif or idea and that constitutes a structure. Even the Thesaurus—it was first published in the late ’40s and it sold three copies a year or something but it came to be understood to be a source book for composers and arrangers—scales developed mathematically. He had a very strong mathematical bent and he figured out how to lay out a series of scales in melodic patterns. It’s used as practice material or for improvisation and as a compositional aide. Coltrane, in particular, was said to have used it. I pulled out a biography of Coltrane to find out if this was true or if it was just some kind of family story, but sure enough I looked up Slonimsky in the index and there’s a whole thing about the Thesaurus and his use of it and how he talked it up to a lot of the people around him. It now sells 700 or 800 copies a year, which for a book like that is unusual, so it continues to be useful apparently to musicians from all schools, classical and jazz and theoreticians. But I think I’ve gone far afield. I’m working on editing his other writings. I have a contract for four volumes of his uncollected works, writings that have not been in books. One volume is on Russian and Soviet composers and it’s just … you have to say it’s just brilliant because it’s not only clear, it’s marvelously written with a wonderful use of words. It’s expressive and also analytic, so it’s informative and also very rich to read. And funny of course, as well. Am I going on too long?

Molly Sheridan: No, no, not at all. I know you mentioned it briefly at the beginning of the interview but I’m really fascinated by how you grew up in this household. I’m guessing what we consider to be some of the musical giants were in and out of your life and over for family dinners and things. What was your perception of that then and now looking back with a little perspective and knowing who they were at the time?

Electra Slonimsky Yourke: I have a very bad memory for childhood, but at the time these were the people who were around and they were kind of interesting and my recollection always is that musicians or composers are a pretty lively group and so I have a very positive impression of musicians. Now that may have been selective. It may be that my father liked the lively ones and the lively ones liked him. But these were not people who were at the house all the time. I don’t want to pretend that the greats were around every night. Ives, as you know, was a very remote person. I think I met him a couple of times but he was very remote and not well, although my father visited him in Connecticut regularly. Henry Cowell was a wonderful man and I remember going to concerts with my father and him in New York, climbing up into lofts and down into cellars to hear various kinds of music. He was a lovely man. Also, Varèse. He lived right over here on Sullivan Street and we used to have dinner with Varèse and Louise at Monte’s on Macdougal St. So Varèse is sort of a presence and I remember him well. He was very imposing. But back in Boston the person who was around a lot was Lukas Foss, who was the pianist of the Boston Symphony when I was growing up. He was sort of a regular and Harold Shapero, and Irving Fine. What they liked to do first of all was tell Koussevitzky stories and they liked to test each other’s perfect pitch. They would sit down and play some incredibly complex combination of notes that would give all kinds of misleading overtones and things—it was like musicological arm wrestling. And there was a lot of laughing. Oh, and Roy Harris was around a lot, although my mother didn’t like him at all. I didn’t know who they all were and indeed they have gone into legend but they weren’t necessarily legendary at that time. My father had associated with all of the truly legendary people, particularly in his Paris days— Stravinsky and so forth. He was proud of his re-barring of The Right of Spring in order to help Koussevitzky conduct it, because that acquired a status of its own. Leonard Bernstein was a great admirer of my father, wrote wonderful things to him and for him, including things about this book. It’s on the back cover. Bernstein studied with my father’s Aunt Isabelle [Vengerova] so there was a tie there. My father was also an exceptional pianist but he never played professionally or seriously because again that wasn’t intellectually interesting. When he had to prepare something on the piano he would put Time magazine on the music stand and practice, and that was the extent of it. He was a person of great intellectual curiosity about certain things and he just couldn’t do the same thing over and over again.

Molly Sheridan: I guess to finish up then, you were saying that there’s lot of work you’re still doing with this stuff and you have a full time job on top of that, so what is motivating you. I mean, this man is your father, but still…

Electra Slonimsky Yourke: Once I left for college I really didn’t know what he was doing most of the time but we had a quite good relationship. I was very much a part of his circle in Los Angeles, and when he came here to New York, he was part of my circle. I met many people through him of all ages, regardless of his age, who continue to be among my closest friends. Toward the last part of his life, I managed his business affairs, so to speak. I mean, I negotiated all his contracts and that sort of thing, so I became involved in the business side of it and got to know all the publishers. He gave his materials to the Library of Congress, really a way of cleaning your closets. I had no idea how much there was. Once I went through it … well this is all good stuff. So compiling these volumes seems to extend his life—which he did pretty well himself (laughs). But he continues to be, I hope, a presence in the world of music. These writings are ephemeral. They appeared one week and then they were gone, never seen again
. I know they have value and so I thought, well, I’ll do a collection. Then, in the course of that, I saw there was more and more and more. Publishers are interested in it—I have not had a problem getting publishers and I have the publishing contacts because his reputation continues. If I say Nicolas Slonimsky to a publisher, they know who he is. But I think that when this four-volume thing is done—well, actually, there’s one other collection that’s possible—and I think that maybe then we will have distilled everything. His letters are absolutely marvelous. That’s only a selection that is included in the new edition of Perfect Pitch. They should be published independently but they have to be annotated. So, if out there in your readership there’s somebody interested in doing that, I think it’s a real source archive. When he was traveling, he wrote them every day, long letters. It’s a resource for people who are writing on other subjects—cultural history, regional history, musical history, biographies of people. It’s a great PhD thesis for somebody. So perhaps the Slonimsky Preservation Project will be almost done when these four volumes are out. And two of them need to be completed by Monday.

Molly Sheridan: So you’ve got a weekend ahead of you then!

Towards Deep Space

The 20th Century gave us a deeper understanding of the relativity of perception in matters scientific as well as cultural. We saw further into outer space as well as further into psychological inner space and the realms of cognition. And as our perception has been expanded, so has our sense of the unknown. Those composers who have made music which explores space and perception have pointed us toward realms of extraordinary possibility.

It’s a wonderful reminder that the parameters of music should never be taken for granted. Music has been largely a linear art, but many composers in the past few decades have given us variations on work which functions as timespace, where sequence becomes elastic. Indeed, the relationship between time and space, and the concept of the two things as something more integrated, is a central mystery of contemporary explorations of cosmology.

The late scientist and philosopher R. Buckminster Fuller developed a theory of an “omnidirectional halo” of non-linear wave and event energy. John Cage was among those composers influenced by Fuller’s thinking, and for me, it is Cage’s late work which begins to scratch the surface of the possibilities implied by Fuller. In Ocean, a work Cage conceived but did not finish (musical realization was completed by Andrew Culver), the music is spatial on both the antiphonal and temporal fronts: a 112-player orchestra surrounds the audience (which surrounds the dance), and all musicians proceed independently through overlapping and layered timespaces.

In any case, expanding the spatial dimension of music as Henry Brant has done, is a powerful step towards expanding our perception of music. The possibilities inherent in new technologies, and in the spirit and imagination which might arise from transformed conceptions, are rich indeed. I suspect that in the future, one aspect of space composers will explore more deeply is the space within sounds, and the realm of fractal structure. But what do you think is next? Where do you think music is going?